#27
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by jml98 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:17 am
i guess ur a pretty hardcore fan if ur arguing stuff like this, lol...
I'm almost certain it's nuts, or at least, NOT an ashtray. Ok the scene takes place from (on the DVD) 23:55 to to about 25:00. (I'll use the times to help point out my evidence) I've watched the scene a few times, studying for any hints as to whether it is nuts or an ashtray. There's no clear shot or really any completely definitive visual evidence. But if u look at all the facts together, and use some reasoning, it's clear its not an ashtray. At 23:45, the woman on the left of Scarlett is smoking a cigarette and uses the ashtray. (Actually there is a continuity error...in this shot, the bowl in question is not on the table, yet at 24:14 it clearly is) You can't really see exactly what she dumps the ashes in, plus someone walks across the shot. Nothing conclusive here, but this will be important later on. From 23:52 - 24:00 we see the singer and an empty table -- with an ashtray in the middle. Note that it is clear, and pretty short. Now, at 24:14, we see the bowl in question - it's not clear (kind of a translucent black) and taller than the ashtray we saw just a moment ago. Now at 24:49, Scarlett has already given Bob the bowl in question (which, btw, he takes a mouthful from...why would he do that to an ashtray is beyond me) You can see in the background a hand (pretty safe to assume its the same woman from before) dumping her ashes into an ashtray (but you cannot see it) If Scarlett gave Bob an ashtray, it wouldn' tbe there for the lady to use (yes...i do realize she could be using another ashtray, the one flaw in my argument, but in all likelihood, it's the same one) Now, finally, at 24:55/6 Bob reaches into the bowl, as if he is getting a handful of something to eat (again, why would he do this if it was an ashtray?)
To sum up - the known ashtray looks different from the bowl in question (different colors, size) And logically, Bob's actions (and the smoking girl to Scarlett's left) wouldn't make sense if it was an ashtray that was given.
All in all, i'm pretty convinced it's a bowl of nuts - or at the very least, not an ashtray.
P.S. yes, lol, i know this qualifies me as a loser! (so u don't have to tell me) haha oh well...i had some free time...just wanted to settle this once and for all...thoughts? arguments? comments?